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Edgar Martinez

2015 Hall of Fame Ballot Series: Edgar Martinez

The first table below presents Edgar Martinez's career as measured by Player won-lost records.

Edgar Martinez
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Value Decomposition
Season Team Age Games pWins pLosses pWin Pct. pWOPA pWORL eWins eLosses eWin Pct. eWOPA eWORL
1987SEA24
13
1.01.00.497-0.0
0.1
1.21.00.5470.10.2
1988SEA25
14
0.80.80.477-0.0
0.0
0.80.80.488-0.00.0
1989SEA26
65
4.94.20.5410.4
0.7
4.45.00.469-0.30.1
1990SEA27
144
16.715.50.5190.7
1.9
16.714.90.5281.02.2
1991SEA28
150
20.716.40.5582.2
3.6
19.716.10.5501.93.3
1992SEA29
135
17.715.70.5310.9
2.3
19.214.70.5652.13.5
1993SEA30
42
3.33.50.490-0.1
0.3
3.53.40.5040.00.4
1994SEA31
89
9.28.90.5080.2
1.0
9.98.20.5480.91.7
1995SEA32
145
16.69.30.6393.1
4.7
15.910.10.6132.54.1
1996SEA33
139
16.710.40.6162.7
4.4
15.210.30.5952.03.6
1997SEA34
155
14.111.20.5581.1
2.7
15.711.30.5821.93.5
1998SEA35
154
15.111.90.5591.1
2.8
14.911.40.5661.22.9
1999SEA36
142
13.39.50.5841.6
3.0
13.39.70.5781.42.9
2000SEA37
153
15.611.10.5841.8
3.6
15.811.00.5892.03.8
2001SEA38
132
14.58.40.6332.8
4.3
13.29.60.5781.53.1
2002SEA39
97
9.06.60.5751.0
2.0
9.07.00.5630.91.9
2003SEA40
145
14.511.70.5541.1
2.7
13.010.80.5450.82.3
2004SEA41
141
8.812.60.410-2.1
-0.7
9.610.70.473-0.70.6
------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
CAREER (reg. season)
2,055
212.5168.80.55718.4
39.6
211.1166.30.55919.039.9
------ ------ ------ ------ ------
PostSeason (career)
34
3.33.10.511 0.43.12.60.541 0.5
------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
COMBINED
2,089
215.8171.90.557
39.9
214.1168.90.559 40.4


This is Edgar Martinez's fifth year on the Hall-of-Fame ballot. In my 2013 Hall-of-Fame ballot series, I looked at how Martinez's career compared to other career DHs. For my 2014 Hall-of-Fame ballot series, I looked at how Martinez's career compared to other members of the Seattle Mariners.

Edgar Martinez spent most of his career as a designated hitter. Critics of the DH will often belittle designated hitters by pointing out that they only play half the game: offense (which is basically true). The flip side of that (sort of) would be pitchers, who mostly only play the other half of the game defense (although pitchers play a much bigger role on defense than DH's do on offense).

So I thought it might be fun to try to find the pitcher most similar in career value to Edgar Martinez, as measured by Player won-lost records, and compare their careers.

The next table shows the 10 players most similar to Edgar Martinez in career value, as measured by Player won-lost records, considering only total record, with no consideration for the breakdown of that record between batting, baserunning, pitching, and fielding.

Wins over Baseline
Player Games pWins pLosses pWOPA pWORL Batting Baserunning Pitching Fielding
Edgar Martinez
2055
212.5168.818.4
39.6
21.5-1.00.02.0
Wade Boggs
2439
291.9254.318.5
39.8
15.60.30.06.6
Willie Stargell
2355
293.6232.318.8
40.1
26.8-0.30.02.3
Ryne Sandberg
2161
287.6255.116.6
37.2
9.21.90.08.4
Rod Carew
2467
295.1259.816.9
39.2
13.61.80.04.6
C.C. Sabathia
510
204.7171.521.4
41.6
-0.4-0.114.1-0.0
Jim Edmonds
2008
256.8210.121.2
39.5
15.0-0.10.07.6
Dwight Evans
2597
326.9274.919.7
43.8
20.00.90.06.8
Carlton Fisk
2497
251.4220.821.3
40.0
11.71.40.03.8
Red Ruffing
729
236.2216.917.7
37.4
-2.9-0.09.00.9
Larry Walker
1983
266.9214.717.2
36.3
19.91.10.03.7


Based on the above table, the pitcher most similar in career value to Edgar Martinez, as measured by Player won-lost records, was Orel Hershiser. Their careers are compared in the next table.

Edgar Martinez Orel Hershiser
Age Games pWins pLoss Win Pct. pWOPA pWORL Games pWins pLoss Win Pct. pWOPA pWORL
24
131.01.00.497-0.0
0.1
80.50.30.6210.10.1
25
140.80.80.477-0.0
0.0
4510.88.10.5721.72.5
26
654.94.20.5410.4
0.7
3613.910.30.5742.43.5
27
14416.715.50.5190.7
1.9
3515.515.10.5061.02.3
28
15020.716.40.5582.2
3.6
4016.615.20.5221.73.1
29
13517.715.70.5310.9
2.3
3620.313.40.6024.25.7
30
423.33.50.490-0.1
0.3
3514.614.30.5050.82.1
31
899.28.90.5080.2
1.0
41.31.70.445-0.10.0
32
14516.69.30.6393.1
4.7
217.14.30.6221.72.2
33
13916.710.40.6162.7
4.4
3512.412.90.4900.51.7
34
15514.111.20.5581.1
2.7
3313.713.50.5050.82.0
35
15415.111.90.5591.1
2.8
217.89.00.463-0.30.6
36
14213.39.50.5841.6
3.0
269.88.30.5441.02.0
37
15315.611.10.5841.8
3.6
3314.010.60.5702.03.4
38
13214.58.40.6332.8
4.3
3211.010.70.5060.41.6
39
979.06.60.5751.0
2.0
3412.812.60.5040.82.0
40
14514.511.70.5541.1
2.7
3211.612.60.4780.11.3
41
1418.812.60.410-2.1
-0.7
101.43.70.270-1.1-0.8
------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
CAREER RECORDS2,055212.5168.80.55718.4
39.6
516195.1176.60.52517.735.4


Orel Hershiser fell off the Hall-of-Fame ballot after two years and has not fared any better in Hall-of-Merit voting. On the one hand, suggesting that Edgar Martinez was comparable in career value to a player who got very little Hall-of-Fame support would seem to be a knock on Edgar Martinez's Hall-of-Fame case. I actually think this is more of a case of Hershiser's career perhaps being underappreciated rather than a suggestion that Martinez is overrated.

Orel Hershiser's 1988 season was one of the best seasons by a pitcher in the 1980s. In fact, I think a strong case can be made that Hershiser was one of the top 5 pitchers of the 1980s.

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