1917 Cincinnati Reds
Baseball Player Won-Loss Records
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Traditional Statistics and Splits (Retrosheet)
Cincinnati Reds -
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(Regular Season)
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1917 National League
)
Positional Average
(Weighted Avg of Options): 0.500
(1-Year)
(9-Year)
(Long-Run)
Positional Averages for Pitchers
(Wgted Avg of Options): "0.500
"vs. Different Values for Starting vs. Relief Pitchers: (Empirical)
(Based on Pitchers who Do Both)
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Position Players
(Sorted by pWORL)
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
pWORL
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
eWORL
Edd Roush
14.0
11.5
1.7
3.1
13.0
12.5
-0.2
1.1
Hal Chase
11.9
10.3
0.8
2.0
11.1
11.1
-0.8
0.4
Greasy Neale
10.3
8.8
1.0
2.0
10.1
9.0
0.6
1.6
Heinie Groh
13.9
13.5
0.3
1.8
14.7
12.6
2.0
3.5
Gus Getz
0.3
0.3
0.0
0.1
0.3
0.3
0.1
0.1
Manuel Cueto
3.6
3.9
-0.5
-0.1
3.4
4.1
-0.9
-0.5
Tommy Clarke
1.6
2.1
-0.4
-0.1
2.0
1.7
0.4
0.7
J. Harry Smith
0.3
0.5
-0.2
-0.1
0.3
0.6
-0.3
-0.2
Sherry Magee
3.4
3.8
-0.6
-0.2
3.9
3.3
0.4
0.8
Bill McKechnie
2.4
3.0
-0.5
-0.2
2.3
3.1
-0.7
-0.4
Ivey Wingo
8.0
9.5
-1.2
-0.3
8.4
9.1
-0.4
0.5
Emil Huhn
0.4
1.2
-0.7
-0.6
0.6
1.0
-0.4
-0.3
Larry Kopf
12.7
15.6
-2.5
-1.0
12.8
15.5
-2.3
-0.8
Dave Shean
9.3
11.6
-2.1
-1.0
9.8
11.1
-1.1
0.0
Tommy Griffith
6.5
8.0
-1.8
-1.0
7.1
7.4
-0.8
0.0
Jim Thorpe
6.2
8.1
-2.4
-1.6
6.3
8.0
-2.2
-1.4
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SUB-TOTAL
104.9
111.7
-9.0
2.7
106.3
110.3
-6.5
5.2
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Pitchers
(Sorted by pWORL)
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
pWORL
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
eWORL
Fred Toney
13.1
11.5
2.2
3.8
13.2
11.3
2.7
4.3
Mike Regan
6.5
6.1
0.8
1.6
6.5
6.0
0.8
1.6
Pete Schneider
13.6
15.0
-0.8
1.1
13.9
14.7
-0.1
1.7
Hod Eller
4.9
4.8
0.3
1.1
5.1
4.6
0.7
1.4
Clarence E. Mitchell
6.7
7.0
-0.1
0.9
7.1
6.6
0.7
1.7
Herman Pillette
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
Rube Bressler
0.0
0.1
-0.0
-0.0
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
Scott Perry
0.0
0.1
-0.1
-0.1
0.1
0.1
-0.0
-0.0
Jimmy Ring
2.4
3.1
-0.6
-0.2
2.4
3.0
-0.5
-0.1
Roy G. Sanders
0.6
1.0
-0.3
-0.2
0.6
1.1
-0.5
-0.4
Elmer Knetzer
0.5
0.9
-0.4
-0.2
0.6
0.7
-0.1
0.1
Dutch Ruether
1.0
1.6
-0.5
-0.3
1.2
1.3
-0.1
0.1
Joe Engel
0.3
0.8
-0.5
-0.4
0.3
0.8
-0.5
-0.4
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SUB-TOTAL
49.6
51.8
-0.0
6.9
51.0
50.4
3.1
10.0
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
pWORL
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
eWORL
TEAM TOTALS
154.5
163.5
-9.0
9.6
157.3
160.7
-3.4
15.2
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Position Players
(Sorted by pWORL)
Batting
Baserunning
Pitching
Fielding
Player
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
Edd Roush
7.7
6.5
0.540
1.2
1.2
0.505
0.0
0.0
0.000
4.2
4.7
0.470
Hal Chase
8.2
8.1
0.505
1.2
1.2
0.500
0.0
0.0
0.000
1.7
1.8
0.482
Greasy Neale
5.8
4.8
0.546
1.2
0.9
0.574
0.0
0.0
0.000
3.2
3.3
0.489
Heinie Groh
9.0
7.2
0.556
1.6
1.5
0.518
0.0
0.0
0.000
4.0
4.1
0.497
Gus Getz
0.3
0.2
0.561
0.0
0.0
0.614
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.547
Manuel Cueto
1.9
2.5
0.439
0.3
0.2
0.593
0.0
0.0
0.000
1.2
1.4
0.461
Tommy Clarke
1.5
1.2
0.563
0.2
0.1
0.637
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.3
0.4
0.452
J. Harry Smith
0.1
0.2
0.314
0.0
0.0
0.963
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.2
0.3
0.334
Sherry Magee
2.1
1.4
0.607
0.6
0.7
0.462
0.0
0.0
0.000
1.2
1.3
0.479
Bill McKechnie
1.2
1.6
0.430
0.2
0.2
0.565
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.9
1.2
0.417
Ivey Wingo
5.4
5.8
0.483
0.7
0.8
0.459
0.0
0.0
0.000
2.3
2.5
0.477
Emil Huhn
0.5
0.8
0.390
0.0
0.0
0.410
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.1
0.2
0.315
Larry Kopf
7.1
8.5
0.454
1.2
1.3
0.486
0.0
0.0
0.000
4.6
5.6
0.453
Dave Shean
5.0
6.6
0.430
0.8
0.6
0.569
0.0
0.0
0.000
4.1
3.8
0.518
Tommy Griffith
3.6
4.1
0.471
0.5
0.4
0.557
0.0
0.0
0.000
3.0
3.0
0.500
Jim Thorpe
3.9
4.7
0.458
0.4
0.9
0.302
0.0
0.0
0.000
2.1
2.3
0.475
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SUB-TOTAL
63.3
64.1
0.497
10.3
10.0
0.505
0.0
0.0
0.000
33.0
35.9
0.479
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Pitchers
(Sorted by pWORL)
Batting
Baserunning
Pitching
Fielding
Player
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
Fred Toney
0.7
1.6
0.297
0.1
0.0
0.526
11.8
9.2
0.561
0.4
0.6
0.410
Mike Regan
0.6
0.8
0.396
0.1
0.0
0.607
5.5
4.8
0.534
0.3
0.4
0.421
Pete Schneider
1.2
1.5
0.436
0.1
0.1
0.418
12.0
12.2
0.496
0.7
0.8
0.455
Hod Eller
0.2
0.5
0.325
0.1
0.1
0.431
4.6
3.9
0.538
0.2
0.1
0.586
Clarence E. Mitchell
1.2
1.3
0.482
0.1
0.1
0.465
5.4
5.0
0.521
0.4
0.4
0.505
Herman Pillette
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.322
0.0
0.0
0.000
Rube Bressler
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.266
0.0
0.0
0.011
Scott Perry
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.1
0.1
0.446
0.0
0.0
0.429
Jimmy Ring
0.2
0.3
0.409
0.0
0.0
0.522
2.1
2.6
0.454
0.1
0.1
0.451
Roy G. Sanders
0.0
0.1
0.081
0.0
0.0
0.655
0.5
0.9
0.380
0.1
0.1
0.546
Elmer Knetzer
0.0
0.1
0.004
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.5
0.6
0.473
0.1
0.0
0.641
Dutch Ruether
0.5
0.4
0.553
0.0
0.0
0.450
0.7
0.9
0.427
0.0
0.0
0.858
Joe Engel
0.0
0.1
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.3
0.6
0.348
0.0
0.0
0.721
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SUB-TOTAL
4.5
6.7
0.403
0.4
0.4
0.471
43.6
40.9
0.516
2.3
2.6
0.467
Batting
Baserunning
Pitching
Fielding
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
TEAM TOTALS
67.9
70.8
0.490
10.6
10.5
0.504
43.6
40.9
0.516
35.2
38.5
0.478
eWin, eLoss, eWOPA by Position
Catcher
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Ivey Wingo
8.3
9.1
-0.4
Tommy Clarke
1.3
1.2
0.2
Emil Huhn
0.5
0.9
-0.3
J. Harry Smith
0.3
0.6
-0.2
Manuel Cueto
0.0
0.1
-0.1
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TOTAL
10.5
11.8
-0.9
First Base
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Hal Chase
11.2
11.0
-0.7
Sherry Magee
0.3
0.2
0.0
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.2
0.1
0.1
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TOTAL
11.7
11.4
-0.5
Second Base
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Dave Shean
9.8
11.1
-1.2
Bill McKechnie
0.9
1.5
-0.6
Heinie Groh
0.5
0.3
0.2
Manuel Cueto
0.3
0.3
0.0
Gus Getz
0.1
0.0
0.1
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TOTAL
11.6
13.3
-1.5
Third Base
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Heinie Groh
14.2
12.4
1.8
Bill McKechnie
0.2
0.4
-0.1
Gus Getz
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
14.4
12.8
1.6
Shortstop
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Larry Kopf
12.9
15.4
-2.0
Bill McKechnie
1.2
1.2
0.0
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TOTAL
14.1
16.5
-2.0
Left Field
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Greasy Neale
6.2
5.5
0.4
Manuel Cueto
2.9
3.1
-0.4
Sherry Magee
2.6
2.4
0.1
Jim Thorpe
1.5
1.6
-0.2
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.4
0.4
-0.0
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TOTAL
13.6
12.9
-0.1
Center Field
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Edd Roush
13.0
12.4
-0.2
Greasy Neale
2.3
2.0
0.1
Manuel Cueto
0.1
0.2
-0.1
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TOTAL
15.4
14.7
-0.3
Right Field
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Tommy Griffith
6.8
7.1
-0.7
Jim Thorpe
4.7
6.0
-1.7
Greasy Neale
1.6
1.4
0.0
Sherry Magee
0.7
0.7
0.0
Manuel Cueto
0.0
0.1
-0.1
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TOTAL
13.8
15.3
-2.5
Designated Hitter
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
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TOTAL
0.0
0.0
0.0
Pinch Hitter
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Tommy Clarke
0.7
0.5
0.3
Dutch Ruether
0.3
0.3
0.0
Tommy Griffith
0.3
0.3
0.0
Jim Thorpe
0.1
0.3
-0.2
Manuel Cueto
0.0
0.5
-0.4
Sherry Magee
0.3
0.1
0.2
Gus Getz
0.2
0.2
0.0
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.2
0.1
0.0
Emil Huhn
0.1
0.1
-0.0
Greasy Neale
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Ivey Wingo
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Bill McKechnie
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Mike Regan
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Heinie Groh
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Roy G. Sanders
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
2.3
2.7
-0.1
Pinch Runner
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Pete Schneider
0.0
0.0
0.0
Bill McKechnie
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Larry Kopf
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Dave Shean
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Tommy Griffith
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
0.0
0.0
0.0
Pitcher Offense
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Pete Schneider
1.3
1.7
0.2
Fred Toney
0.7
1.7
-0.3
Mike Regan
0.6
0.8
0.1
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.6
0.8
0.1
Hod Eller
0.3
0.6
-0.1
Jimmy Ring
0.2
0.3
0.0
Dutch Ruether
0.1
0.1
0.1
Roy G. Sanders
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Elmer Knetzer
0.0
0.1
-0.0
Joe Engel
0.0
0.1
-0.0
Scott Perry
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Rube Bressler
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
3.9
6.3
-0.1
Starting Pitching
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Pete Schneider
12.6
13.0
-0.3
Fred Toney
12.3
9.9
2.4
Mike Regan
5.5
4.8
0.7
Clarence E. Mitchell
4.8
4.3
0.5
Hod Eller
3.4
3.4
-0.0
Jimmy Ring
1.5
2.0
-0.5
Roy G. Sanders
0.6
0.9
-0.3
Dutch Ruether
0.4
0.7
-0.4
Joe Engel
0.4
0.6
-0.3
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TOTAL
41.4
39.6
1.9
Relief Pitching
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Hod Eller
1.2
0.8
0.4
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.9
0.9
-0.0
Jimmy Ring
0.7
0.8
-0.1
Elmer Knetzer
0.6
0.6
-0.0
Mike Regan
0.3
0.4
-0.1
Dutch Ruether
0.3
0.3
0.0
Scott Perry
0.1
0.1
-0.0
Pete Schneider
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Rube Bressler
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Herman Pillette
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
4.2
3.9
0.2
Team eWins over Positional Average by Position
P
C
1B
2B
3B
SS
LF
CF
RF
Oth
1917 Cincinnati Reds
2.0
-0.9
-0.5
-1.5
1.6
-2.0
-0.1
-0.3
-2.5
-0.1
pWin, pLoss, pWOPA by Position
Catcher
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Ivey Wingo
7.9
9.5
-1.2
Tommy Clarke
1.2
1.3
-0.0
Emil Huhn
0.4
1.0
-0.5
J. Harry Smith
0.3
0.5
-0.2
Manuel Cueto
0.0
0.1
-0.1
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TOTAL
9.9
12.4
-2.0
First Base
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Hal Chase
11.9
10.3
0.8
Sherry Magee
0.3
0.1
0.2
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.3
0.1
0.1
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TOTAL
12.5
10.6
1.1
Second Base
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Dave Shean
9.3
11.6
-2.1
Bill McKechnie
0.9
1.4
-0.5
Heinie Groh
0.6
0.1
0.5
Manuel Cueto
0.3
0.3
0.1
Gus Getz
0.2
0.0
0.1
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TOTAL
11.4
13.4
-1.9
Third Base
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Heinie Groh
13.2
13.3
-0.1
Bill McKechnie
0.3
0.3
-0.0
Gus Getz
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
13.5
13.7
-0.2
Shortstop
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Larry Kopf
12.7
15.6
-2.5
Bill McKechnie
1.2
1.2
0.0
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TOTAL
13.9
16.8
-2.5
Left Field
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Greasy Neale
6.3
5.3
0.7
Manuel Cueto
3.1
2.8
0.1
Sherry Magee
2.4
2.5
-0.2
Jim Thorpe
1.4
1.7
-0.4
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.4
0.3
0.1
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TOTAL
13.8
12.7
0.3
Center Field
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Edd Roush
14.0
11.5
1.7
Greasy Neale
2.2
2.1
-0.1
Manuel Cueto
0.1
0.3
-0.2
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TOTAL
16.2
13.9
1.4
Right Field
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Tommy Griffith
6.3
7.6
-1.8
Jim Thorpe
4.7
6.0
-1.8
Greasy Neale
1.8
1.2
0.5
Sherry Magee
0.5
0.9
-0.5
Manuel Cueto
0.1
0.1
0.0
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TOTAL
13.3
15.8
-3.5
Designated Hitter
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
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TOTAL
0.0
0.0
0.0
Pinch Hitter
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Tommy Clarke
0.4
0.8
-0.3
Dutch Ruether
0.2
0.4
-0.1
Tommy Griffith
0.2
0.3
-0.0
Jim Thorpe
0.1
0.3
-0.2
Manuel Cueto
0.0
0.5
-0.4
Sherry Magee
0.2
0.2
-0.0
Gus Getz
0.1
0.2
-0.1
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.2
0.1
0.1
Emil Huhn
0.0
0.2
-0.2
Greasy Neale
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Ivey Wingo
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Bill McKechnie
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Mike Regan
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Heinie Groh
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Roy G. Sanders
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
1.6
3.4
-1.5
Pinch Runner
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Pete Schneider
0.0
0.0
0.0
Bill McKechnie
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Larry Kopf
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Dave Shean
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Tommy Griffith
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Pitcher Offense
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Pete Schneider
1.4
1.6
0.3
Fred Toney
0.9
1.5
-0.1
Mike Regan
0.5
1.0
-0.1
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.7
0.7
0.2
Hod Eller
0.2
0.7
-0.2
Jimmy Ring
0.4
0.1
0.3
Dutch Ruether
0.0
0.2
-0.1
Roy G. Sanders
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Elmer Knetzer
0.0
0.1
-0.0
Joe Engel
0.0
0.1
-0.0
Scott Perry
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Rube Bressler
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
4.1
6.1
0.3
Starting Pitching
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Pete Schneider
12.2
13.4
-1.1
Fred Toney
12.2
10.0
2.3
Mike Regan
5.7
4.6
1.1
Clarence E. Mitchell
4.5
4.6
-0.1
Hod Eller
3.4
3.3
0.1
Jimmy Ring
1.5
2.0
-0.6
Roy G. Sanders
0.6
0.9
-0.2
Dutch Ruether
0.4
0.7
-0.2
Joe Engel
0.3
0.7
-0.5
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TOTAL
40.8
40.2
0.7
Relief Pitching
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Hod Eller
1.2
0.8
0.5
Clarence E. Mitchell
0.7
1.1
-0.4
Jimmy Ring
0.5
0.9
-0.4
Elmer Knetzer
0.5
0.8
-0.3
Mike Regan
0.3
0.5
-0.2
Dutch Ruether
0.3
0.3
-0.0
Scott Perry
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Pete Schneider
0.0
0.1
-0.0
Rube Bressler
0.0
0.1
-0.0
Herman Pillette
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
3.5
4.6
-1.0
Team pWins over Positional Average by Position
P
C
1B
2B
3B
SS
LF
CF
RF
Oth
1917 Cincinnati Reds
-0.1
-2.0
1.1
-1.9
-0.2
-2.5
0.3
1.4
-3.5
-1.5
*
Player won-loss records are calculated using Retrosheet play-by-play data. For some seasons, Retrosheet does not have full play-by-play data for all games. In these cases, some games may be missing.
The number of Games shown here are the number of games for which Retrosheet play-by-play data exist and were used in these calculations.
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