1917 New York Giants
Baseball Player Won-Loss Records
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1917 New York Giants
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Traditional Statistics and Splits (Retrosheet)
New York Giants -
Franchise Page
(Regular Season)
(
1917 National League
)
Postseason
Positional Average
(Weighted Avg of Options): 0.500
(1-Year)
(9-Year)
(Long-Run)
Positional Averages for Pitchers
(Wgted Avg of Options): "0.500
"vs. Different Values for Starting vs. Relief Pitchers: (Empirical)
(Based on Pitchers who Do Both)
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Position Players
(Sorted by pWORL)
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
pWORL
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
eWORL
Benny Kauff
15.3
8.9
5.8
7.1
14.0
10.1
3.1
4.4
Art Fletcher
13.3
8.5
5.0
6.2
12.1
9.7
2.6
3.8
George J. Burns
13.5
9.3
3.6
4.8
13.1
9.7
2.8
4.0
Heinie Zimmerman
12.9
10.0
2.8
4.0
11.9
11.0
0.9
2.1
Dave Robertson
11.1
8.5
2.1
3.2
10.3
9.3
0.5
1.5
Buck Herzog
8.9
7.2
1.7
2.6
8.0
8.1
0.1
0.9
Walter Holke
8.9
6.6
1.7
2.6
8.5
7.0
1.0
1.8
Bill Rariden
4.3
3.7
0.7
1.1
4.4
3.6
0.9
1.3
Lew McCarty
2.8
2.4
0.5
0.8
2.8
2.5
0.4
0.7
Joe Wilhoit
1.3
0.8
0.4
0.5
1.3
0.8
0.5
0.6
Pete Kilduff
1.5
1.3
0.2
0.4
1.3
1.4
-0.0
0.1
Jimmy Smith
1.3
1.1
0.2
0.4
1.2
1.2
0.1
0.2
Jim Thorpe
0.7
0.5
0.2
0.3
0.6
0.6
0.0
0.1
Al Baird
0.1
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
George Gibson
0.9
1.0
-0.1
0.0
0.8
1.1
-0.2
-0.1
Jack Onslow
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
George Kelly
0.1
0.1
-0.0
-0.0
0.1
0.1
-0.0
-0.0
Ed Hemingway
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
Jose Rodriguez (1916)
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
Ross Youngs
0.0
0.1
-0.0
-0.0
0.0
0.1
-0.0
-0.0
Ernie Krueger
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
0.0
0.0
-0.0
-0.0
Red Murray
0.0
0.3
-0.3
-0.2
0.1
0.2
-0.1
-0.1
Hans Lobert
0.4
1.0
-0.6
-0.5
0.5
0.9
-0.4
-0.3
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SUB-TOTAL
97.2
71.6
24.0
33.1
91.3
77.5
12.0
21.1
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Pitchers
(Sorted by pWORL)
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
pWORL
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
eWORL
Slim Sallee
6.9
3.4
3.8
4.4
5.9
4.4
1.9
2.6
Pol Perritt
6.5
4.8
2.0
2.8
5.5
5.8
-0.1
0.7
Ferdie Schupp
9.1
8.9
0.6
1.9
8.7
9.3
0.1
1.3
Rube Benton
7.1
6.9
0.5
1.5
6.8
7.2
-0.1
1.0
Fred Anderson
3.4
3.1
0.5
1.0
3.4
3.1
0.5
1.0
Al Demaree
2.1
1.8
0.4
0.7
2.0
1.9
0.2
0.5
Jeff Tesreau
3.9
4.2
-0.1
0.5
3.6
4.5
-0.8
-0.1
Jim Middleton
0.5
0.8
-0.3
-0.1
0.6
0.6
0.1
0.2
George A. Smith
0.1
0.7
-0.5
-0.5
0.3
0.5
-0.2
-0.1
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SUB-TOTAL
39.8
34.4
6.8
12.2
37.0
37.2
1.8
7.1
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
pWORL
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
eWORL
TEAM TOTALS
137.0
106.0
30.8
45.2
128.3
114.7
13.7
28.1
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Position Players
(Sorted by pWORL)
Batting
Baserunning
Pitching
Fielding
Player
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
Benny Kauff
8.7
5.7
0.603
1.3
1.2
0.514
0.0
0.0
0.000
3.8
3.3
0.537
Art Fletcher
6.3
5.7
0.525
1.0
0.9
0.543
0.0
0.0
0.000
4.6
3.3
0.585
George J. Burns
7.4
5.4
0.577
1.8
1.1
0.620
0.0
0.0
0.000
3.8
3.3
0.536
Heinie Zimmerman
7.5
6.7
0.528
0.9
1.0
0.474
0.0
0.0
0.000
3.4
3.3
0.509
Dave Robertson
5.7
5.4
0.518
0.8
0.5
0.621
0.0
0.0
0.000
3.7
3.4
0.519
Buck Herzog
4.7
4.5
0.510
0.9
0.9
0.488
0.0
0.0
0.000
2.4
2.6
0.481
Walter Holke
6.1
5.0
0.550
1.2
0.9
0.577
0.0
0.0
0.000
1.2
1.2
0.491
Bill Rariden
2.9
2.1
0.582
0.6
0.4
0.597
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.9
1.2
0.433
Lew McCarty
2.1
1.8
0.527
0.2
0.1
0.613
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.5
0.5
0.501
Joe Wilhoit
1.0
0.4
0.693
0.1
0.2
0.424
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.2
0.2
0.510
Pete Kilduff
0.9
0.9
0.495
0.1
0.2
0.273
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.4
0.3
0.557
Jimmy Smith
0.6
0.6
0.476
0.3
0.1
0.673
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.4
0.4
0.483
Jim Thorpe
0.3
0.3
0.555
0.1
0.0
0.832
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.2
0.3
0.403
Al Baird
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
-0.0
1.039
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.535
George Gibson
0.4
0.7
0.391
0.1
0.2
0.239
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.4
0.2
0.627
Jack Onslow
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.529
George Kelly
0.0
0.1
0.347
0.0
0.0
0.416
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
-0.0
1.220
Ed Hemingway
0.0
0.0
0.020
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.630
Jose Rodriguez (1916)
0.0
0.0
0.012
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
Ross Youngs
0.0
0.0
0.689
0.0
0.0
0.283
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
Ernie Krueger
0.0
0.0
0.057
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.769
Red Murray
0.1
0.2
0.365
0.0
0.0
0.399
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.424
Hans Lobert
0.3
0.8
0.286
0.1
0.0
0.701
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.1
0.1
0.394
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SUB-TOTAL
55.1
46.4
0.543
9.6
7.9
0.548
0.0
0.0
0.000
26.0
23.7
0.523
Basic Player Won-Lost Records
Pitchers
(Sorted by pWORL)
Batting
Baserunning
Pitching
Fielding
Player
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
Slim Sallee
0.7
0.8
0.448
0.0
0.0
0.579
4.8
3.6
0.573
0.2
0.2
0.586
Pol Perritt
0.3
0.5
0.348
0.0
0.1
0.406
4.9
4.9
0.498
0.3
0.3
0.554
Ferdie Schupp
0.4
0.9
0.297
0.1
0.1
0.541
8.0
7.7
0.511
0.3
0.4
0.455
Rube Benton
0.6
0.7
0.442
0.1
0.1
0.298
5.9
5.8
0.505
0.3
0.5
0.365
Fred Anderson
0.1
0.4
0.205
0.0
0.0
0.328
3.2
2.5
0.558
0.1
0.2
0.414
Al Demaree
0.1
0.2
0.345
0.1
0.0
0.938
1.7
1.6
0.523
0.1
0.1
0.427
Jeff Tesreau
0.3
0.3
0.529
0.1
0.1
0.491
3.1
3.8
0.448
0.2
0.2
0.396
Jim Middleton
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.6
0.5
0.541
0.0
0.0
0.887
George A. Smith
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.0
0.0
0.000
0.3
0.4
0.419
0.0
0.0
0.554
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SUB-TOTAL
2.4
4.0
0.380
0.4
0.4
0.475
32.5
30.9
0.513
1.6
1.9
0.459
Batting
Baserunning
Pitching
Fielding
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
eWins
eLoss
Win Pct.
TEAM TOTALS
57.6
50.4
0.533
10.0
8.4
0.545
32.5
30.9
0.513
27.6
25.6
0.518
eWin, eLoss, eWOPA by Position
Catcher
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Bill Rariden
4.3
3.7
0.8
Lew McCarty
2.6
2.3
0.4
George Gibson
0.9
1.1
-0.2
Ernie Krueger
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Jack Onslow
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
7.8
7.1
0.9
First Base
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Walter Holke
8.5
7.0
0.9
Jose Rodriguez (1916)
0.0
0.0
-0.0
George Kelly
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
8.5
7.1
0.9
Second Base
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Buck Herzog
8.0
8.0
0.1
Pete Kilduff
1.2
1.4
-0.1
Jimmy Smith
1.0
1.1
-0.0
Heinie Zimmerman
0.2
0.3
-0.1
Al Baird
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
10.5
10.8
-0.2
Third Base
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Heinie Zimmerman
11.7
10.8
0.8
Hans Lobert
0.3
0.4
-0.1
Ed Hemingway
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Pete Kilduff
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
12.0
11.2
0.7
Shortstop
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Art Fletcher
11.9
9.8
2.4
Jimmy Smith
0.1
0.1
0.0
Al Baird
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Pete Kilduff
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
12.1
10.0
2.4
Left Field
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
George J. Burns
13.0
9.9
2.4
Ross Youngs
0.0
0.0
-0.0
George Kelly
0.0
0.0
0.0
Red Murray
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
13.0
9.9
2.4
Center Field
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Benny Kauff
13.9
10.3
2.8
Dave Robertson
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Red Murray
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
13.9
10.3
2.8
Right Field
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Dave Robertson
10.3
9.1
0.6
Joe Wilhoit
1.1
0.6
0.5
Jim Thorpe
0.6
0.5
0.0
Red Murray
0.0
0.0
-0.0
George Kelly
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
12.0
10.3
1.0
Designated Hitter
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
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TOTAL
0.0
0.0
0.0
Pinch Hitter
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Hans Lobert
0.1
0.5
-0.4
Joe Wilhoit
0.2
0.1
0.1
Lew McCarty
0.1
0.2
0.0
Red Murray
0.0
0.3
-0.3
George Kelly
0.1
0.1
-0.0
Dave Robertson
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Pete Kilduff
0.0
0.0
0.0
Jim Thorpe
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Ross Youngs
0.0
0.0
0.0
Ernie Krueger
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Bill Rariden
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
0.5
1.4
-0.8
Pinch Runner
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Pete Kilduff
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Red Murray
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Buck Herzog
0.0
0.0
0.0
Jimmy Smith
0.0
0.0
0.0
Al Baird
0.0
0.0
0.0
Hans Lobert
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
0.1
0.1
-0.0
Pitcher Offense
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Slim Sallee
0.7
0.8
0.2
Ferdie Schupp
0.5
1.0
-0.2
Rube Benton
0.6
0.8
0.1
Pol Perritt
0.3
0.6
-0.1
Jeff Tesreau
0.4
0.4
0.1
Fred Anderson
0.1
0.4
-0.2
Al Demaree
0.2
0.2
0.0
Jim Middleton
0.0
0.0
-0.0
George A. Smith
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
2.8
4.5
-0.0
Starting Pitching
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Ferdie Schupp
8.2
7.8
0.4
Rube Benton
5.1
4.9
0.2
Pol Perritt
4.6
4.7
-0.1
Slim Sallee
4.2
3.1
1.1
Fred Anderson
2.6
2.3
0.4
Jeff Tesreau
2.2
2.6
-0.4
Al Demaree
1.4
1.2
0.1
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TOTAL
28.3
26.7
1.6
Relief Pitching
Player
eWins
eLosses
eWOPA
Rube Benton
1.1
1.4
-0.3
Jeff Tesreau
1.1
1.4
-0.4
Slim Sallee
0.9
0.6
0.3
Jim Middleton
0.7
0.5
0.1
Pol Perritt
0.6
0.5
0.1
Fred Anderson
0.6
0.4
0.2
Al Demaree
0.5
0.4
0.0
George A. Smith
0.3
0.4
-0.1
Ferdie Schupp
0.2
0.3
-0.2
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TOTAL
5.9
6.1
-0.2
Team eWins over Positional Average by Position
P
C
1B
2B
3B
SS
LF
CF
RF
Oth
1917 New York Giants
1.4
0.9
0.9
-0.2
0.7
2.4
2.4
2.8
1.0
-0.8
pWin, pLoss, pWOPA by Position
Catcher
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Bill Rariden
4.3
3.7
0.7
Lew McCarty
2.6
2.3
0.3
George Gibson
0.9
1.0
-0.1
Ernie Krueger
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Jack Onslow
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
7.8
7.1
0.9
First Base
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Walter Holke
8.9
6.6
1.7
Jose Rodriguez (1916)
0.0
0.0
-0.0
George Kelly
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
8.9
6.7
1.7
Second Base
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Buck Herzog
8.8
7.2
1.7
Pete Kilduff
1.4
1.2
0.2
Jimmy Smith
1.2
0.9
0.3
Heinie Zimmerman
0.2
0.3
-0.2
Al Baird
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
11.6
9.7
2.0
Third Base
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Heinie Zimmerman
12.7
9.7
3.0
Hans Lobert
0.4
0.4
-0.0
Ed Hemingway
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Pete Kilduff
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
13.1
10.2
2.9
Shortstop
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Art Fletcher
13.3
8.5
5.0
Jimmy Smith
0.1
0.1
-0.0
Al Baird
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Pete Kilduff
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
13.4
8.6
5.0
Left Field
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
George J. Burns
13.5
9.3
3.6
Ross Youngs
0.0
0.0
-0.0
George Kelly
0.0
0.0
0.0
Red Murray
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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TOTAL
13.6
9.3
3.6
Center Field
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Benny Kauff
15.3
8.9
5.8
Dave Robertson
0.0
0.1
-0.0
Red Murray
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
15.3
8.9
5.8
Right Field
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Dave Robertson
11.1
8.3
2.3
Joe Wilhoit
1.1
0.6
0.4
Jim Thorpe
0.7
0.4
0.3
Red Murray
0.0
0.0
-0.0
George Kelly
0.0
0.0
-0.0
------
------
------
TOTAL
12.9
9.4
3.0
Designated Hitter
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
------
------
------
TOTAL
0.0
0.0
0.0
Pinch Hitter
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Hans Lobert
0.0
0.6
-0.5
Joe Wilhoit
0.1
0.2
-0.0
Lew McCarty
0.2
0.1
0.1
Red Murray
0.0
0.3
-0.3
George Kelly
0.1
0.1
-0.0
Dave Robertson
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Pete Kilduff
0.0
0.0
0.0
Jim Thorpe
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Ross Youngs
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Ernie Krueger
0.0
0.0
-0.0
Bill Rariden
0.0
0.0
0.0
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TOTAL
0.5
1.5
-0.8
Pinch Runner
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Pete Kilduff
0.0
0.1
-0.1
Red Murray
0.0
0.0
0.0
Buck Herzog
0.0
0.0
0.0
Jimmy Smith
0.0
0.0
0.0
Al Baird
0.0
0.0
0.0
Hans Lobert
0.0
0.0
0.0
------
------
------
TOTAL
0.2
0.1
0.0
Pitcher Offense
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Slim Sallee
0.9
0.6
0.5
Ferdie Schupp
0.5
1.0
-0.2
Rube Benton
0.7
0.8
0.2
Pol Perritt
0.4
0.5
0.0
Jeff Tesreau
0.4
0.4
0.2
Fred Anderson
0.1
0.5
-0.2
Al Demaree
0.2
0.2
0.1
Jim Middleton
0.0
0.0
-0.0
George A. Smith
0.0
0.0
-0.0
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------
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TOTAL
3.2
4.0
0.6
Starting Pitching
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Ferdie Schupp
8.5
7.5
1.0
Rube Benton
5.4
4.6
0.7
Pol Perritt
5.5
3.8
1.7
Slim Sallee
4.9
2.4
2.6
Fred Anderson
2.7
2.2
0.5
Jeff Tesreau
2.3
2.6
-0.3
Al Demaree
1.3
1.3
0.0
------
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TOTAL
30.5
24.4
6.2
Relief Pitching
Player
pWins
pLosses
pWOPA
Rube Benton
1.0
1.5
-0.4
Jeff Tesreau
1.2
1.2
0.0
Slim Sallee
1.1
0.4
0.7
Jim Middleton
0.5
0.7
-0.2
Pol Perritt
0.7
0.5
0.2
Fred Anderson
0.6
0.4
0.3
Al Demaree
0.6
0.3
0.3
George A. Smith
0.1
0.6
-0.5
Ferdie Schupp
0.2
0.4
-0.2
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TOTAL
6.0
6.0
0.0
Team pWins over Positional Average by Position
P
C
1B
2B
3B
SS
LF
CF
RF
Oth
1917 New York Giants
6.8
0.9
1.7
2.0
2.9
5.0
3.6
5.8
3.0
-0.8
*
Player won-loss records are calculated using Retrosheet play-by-play data. For some seasons, Retrosheet does not have full play-by-play data for all games. In these cases, some games may be missing.
The number of Games shown here are the number of games for which Retrosheet play-by-play data exist and were used in these calculations.
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